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The cat’s out of the bag: I have started practicing hand-cut dovetails.

I started my practice sessions with this gent’s saw; in retrospect, I should have practiced starting the cuts with a much lighter touch than I used, as I could see a curve in some of the kerfs as the cut went deeper:

I am certain ignorance on my part played a big role, but I just could not get comfortable with the grip on the gent’s saw. As a result, I ordered an E.T. Roberts & Lee Dorchester 8-inch, 21 ppi rip dovetail saw. As soon as the saw arrived I started practice sessions, cutting parallel lines marked on the end grain of the board:

Problem: At first I was unable to remove the protective coating from the steel - Grr! It turned out that this company uses lacquer on their steel, to minimize the risk of corrosion between manufacture and delivery; a few drops of lacquer thinner removed the coating completely, and made a huge difference in performance! My bad, of course. Isn’t ignorance bliss? I understand that most (?) American manufacturers use a wax coating, which is easily removed with mineral spirits.

As I started using the new saw, it seemed somewhat difficult to get the cut started. My intent was to make practice cuts, targetting 1) a pre-set depth, and 2) perfectly parallel cuts. I noticed, as my practice session got longer and longer, it became much easier to start the cuts. And toward the end of the session I was able to start a cut and finish it in seconds. I have read somewhere that this is normal behavior for this type of saw.

However, I will have to practice a lot more, for I noticed two serious problems:

  1. I have a tendency to overshoot the depth, and
  2. I can cut better parallel lines when the saw is tilting to the left, as in the last photo.

Next step: Cutting to a line.

I hope I can get better when cutting with the saw tilting to the right. Practice should make perfect - I hope!

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2 Responses to “Practice should make perfect: Hand-cut dovetails”

  1. Mark Mazzo

    on September 12 2008

    Hey Al,

    Hand cut dovetails…cool!

    Take this with a grain of salt, because I use a Japanese Dozuki for dovetails but, as far as starting the cut, you may want to see how much set you have in the teeth of your saw. Too much set I think can sometimes make the cut more difficult to start. The set can be removed by lightly rubbing a flat stone along the sides of the teeth…lots of resources on the net about this.

    WIth respect to the parallel cuts at an angle, when I cut my tails I actually angle to board in the vise so that the cut is vertical (i.e. perpendicular to the ground)and then just cut straight down. It’s a lot easier to just learn to cut straight without introducing another variable in the mix.

    Keep sawing!

    –Mark
    The Craftsman’s Path

  2. Al (Sandal Woods)

    on September 12 2008

    Hi, Mark!
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    I *know* I read somewhere (The Schwarz?) that most dovetail saws require some “breaking in” before they start the cut much more easily. And that is what I found, after making several dozen cuts.
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    I will have to try the angled-board trick, to see if I can get better results getting parallel cuts. I actually tried for about two seconds, and found it very awkward. But I will definitely try it again.
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    The set on the teeth is not much - I believe it is in the order of 0.003″, which is quite good. But I will go back and measure it.
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    More practice is just what the doctor ordered, Mark. I am trying one thing at a time and sticking with it, to see if I can make progress. Thanks for the encouragement!

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My name is Al Navas, and I live in NW Missouri with my bride of many years. We are both woodworkers who love to be in the shop together, sharing wonderful times. She is a woodturner, and also carves and does pyrography. I do what many call flat work, which includes jewelry boxes to blanket chests; armoires to entertainment centers; church altars to prayer kneelers; custom cabinets to rustic furniture. In our “spare” time in the shop we make toys, bird houses, etc., for our granddaughters. In late 2007 we finished serving as officers for the St Joseph Woodworkers Guild.